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Pilots start now, health secretary tells dentists

25th May 2011

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Trials of new dental contracts – with payments according to quality of treatment, rather than quantity – will begin within weeks, the health secretary revealed.

Addressing the British Dental Conference, Andrew Lansley said the 62 pilots would 'go live in the next month', ahead of legislation later in this parliament.

And he hailed the help ministers had received from dentists, saying: 'It contrasts sharply with the atmosphere of hostility and anger that prevailed around the previous dental reform programme.'

During the speech, in Manchester, Mr Lansley also revealed that local authorities would help the new NHS Commissioning Board develop services that 'respond to locally identified needs'.

The shake-up of commissioning – part of the troubled Health and Social Care Bill – has been fiercely criticised by Labour, although the Health Secretary insisted it had been 'broadly welcomed". And he launched an attack on the quality of children's teeth, branding evidence that 30% of children suffer 'very significantly' from tooth decay 'unacceptable'.

And he added: 'Here in the north west, the extraction of teeth is the biggest single reason why children are subjected to a general anaesthetic.

'We need to focus our services more on prevention, for both adults and for children.'

In May, when the department of health announced that 62 dental practices had been selected to test out a new dental contract, it said they would get underway 'in the summer'.

Now they will begin within the next few weeks, with three slightly different different models providing information and evidence on various aspects of the proposals.

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Mr Lansley pledged the shake-up would; guarantee 'continuity of care' for patients, end the 'perverse incentives of an activity based system' and properly measure the quality of treatment.

And he praised two dentists who had 'blazed a trail' in training colleagues who will run the contract pilots – Ravi Singh, of Windsor Dental Practice, in Salford, and Shazzad Saleem, of Glodwick Dental Practice, in Oldham.

On commissioning, Mr Lansley stuck by his plans for the new independent Commissioning Board to perform the task – despite hints of a rethink on other aspects of the Bill, as part of a 'listening exercise'.

He said some of the doomed primary care trusts (PCTs) had worked 'innovatively and constructively', but said the approach of others had been 'frustrating for everybody – especially for the profession'.

And he said: 'We have an opportunity to achieve greater integration between primary and secondary care dental services and to bring a far greater degree of consistency to dental commissioning.'

However, local councils would produce 'Joint Strategic Needs Assessments', which the Commissioning Board would develop further. There was also an apparent admission of tensions, when he said a meeting between Sir David Nicholson, the Board's chief executive-in-waiting, and North West dentists had been 'frank and constructive'.

Mr Lansley acknowledged that the introduction of registration with the CQC had caused 'a good deal of concern', but told the conference: 'We need to move on.'

He admitted the recent 0.5% increase in contract values had been 'tough', but added: 'We've protected the NHS budget – increasing it in real terms with an extra £11.6 billion in this parliament.'

Finally, commenting on a study suggesting 11 million people would live to the age of 100, Mr Lansley said: 'Almost all of those 11 million people will retain some teeth past their 100th birthday and will need support to maintain their oral health.'

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Rob Merrick


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Deckchairs. Titanic.
Posted by docholliday 25/5/11 at 15:16
yup doc -it starts again.Can't wait to see how the quality is judged especially after 5 years of supervised neglect from the last new new ...zzzzz contrick
Posted by gordie 26/5/11 at 09:43
"we need to move on"-I expect he'll have moved on long before we will and still stuck with the cqc quango
Posted by gordie 26/5/11 at 09:47
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Dammit Doc. Don't you ever have to work? Lansley really needs to get a grip on either a core service or vouchers, but as you said, seems to want to move the deckchairs, again.
Posted by chaswarner 26/5/11 at 16:59
Work? Perish the thought! :-)
Posted by docholliday 26/5/11 at 20:08
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Terrible to even think that we could be back in the same position again in 5 years time. Wasn't this how the last contract was introduced (except for pilots: the last government didn't need any of those!)? The key word are 'we need to move on'. In fact we need to move BACK. There is no case for CQC at the present time, given other regulatory arrangements and the real issues which are nothing to do with issues the CQC might address. Oh dear! Where do we go from here?
Posted by AHR 27/5/11 at 22:41
AHR - 'where do we go from here?'
Here's a hint - 'away from the NHS'. I could never understand why anyone in a reasonable middle-class urban area practice would have accepted the last 'pile of ordure', but a lot did. More fool them. They can't say they weren't warned, eg by Derek Watson of the DPA. The result of accepting that poisoned chalice of Nectar Points and all that goes with them leads to the recent TV hatchet-job, and also to a complete erosion of all the standards of dentistry we were taught. Those still clinging to the dry, wrinkly teat of NHS/GDS for their income should not be expecting to be 'bailed out', either. That only happens to bankers.


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Posted by docholliday 28/5/11 at 08:06
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If anyone is interested how the pilots might look, google the name of one of the Dentists (Shazaad Saleem) that he has thanked. You will find a Power point presentation for his PCT (Apparently he has 5 practices with 3 other partners in a deprived area in NW England) and has "developed a program" for these patients. It is "traffic light" system with different recall intervals depending on the OH status of the patients. I don't think it will work.
Posted by Expat 28/5/11 at 15:22
As Joan Armatrading put it 'Drop the Pilot'.
In olden days, we had 'death by Vufoil'. I know it's now 'death by PowerPoint', and appreciate the need for traffic lights. At busy road junctions.
I've ceased caring what these cretins think.
As long as all my Denplan Essentials appreciate seeing me regularly, I'll be fang-farrying for a while yet.
Posted by docholliday 28/5/11 at 19:10
the govt has its agenda and I have mine-mine has done very well so far and I have seen nothing to make me change my plans,so they can introduce whatever they like that fits in with their plan-I will stick with private dentistry.My patients like what I offer at the price I choose, They get a good standard which means I don't ever get call outs/emergencies etc If you work for the nhs you you will always be at their decision making and never in charge of your own destiny. Now we only have to fix the gdc and cqc-bring on the revolution!!!
Posted by gordie 29/5/11 at 18:57
just read in "the dentist" about the new "denplan on the cheap" pilot schemes-ha ha ha
Posted by gordie 2/6/11 at 12:22
Yes gordie. The bit about 'continuing care' and 'capitation' had me smiling. Haven't we been here before? Deja vu. It'll stop all the 'players'. Bound to, I'd say. Still remember the boss putting a big advert into the Sixth Form college next to where the practice was 'Over 16? Sign a form and get a 50p record token for free' All those multi-acceptance yellow forms.
Posted by docholliday 2/6/11 at 13:36
hadn't heard that scam before-my mate told me a story from an RDO (remember them) He said the top 10% of dentists never get rdo'd-their work is very good, the next 40% get on average 5-10 reviews a year-the remaining 50% never get rdo'd The 40% are reviewed to stop them from degenerating into the 50% The 50% never get reviewed because they'd be struck off such is the level of their dentistry-that was told to him by an RDO. So they couldn't monitor "quality" then , how are they going to do it now there are no RDO's. Deja vu as you say
Posted by gordie 2/6/11 at 14:06
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Gordie,
The 2-3 RDO's that I had the pleasure to speak to did not know much about quality Dentistry. They usually got the job because they "had been there , done that" themselves and knew all the scams very well. It gets a "crook to know a crook" I guess.
Posted by Expat 2/6/11 at 15:54
TGI's Denplan, sorry Friday - tomorrow and evermore!
Posted by docholliday 2/6/11 at 23:32
Electronic stutters - not as good as 'The Kings Speech', however!

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